Analyzing Stormfront.org (Part I. Membership and Federal Agency Involvement) Saturday, Dec 12 2009 

While many would not believe me saying what the title says, after closely following various discussions on the so called white nationalist site, the poor bastards don’t even know that they their site might have been hijacked by the federal agents during sometime this year, possibly during Summer.  When the first proposals of various registrations came out, regarding  “right wing extremism” and now as the “hate crime laws” are signed by pres. Obama, the site was already under the control of various infiltrators coming from think-tanks,  FBI and other undercover agents.  In this part of this blog, I’m gonna tell you my own observation regarding Stormfront and Its members and how to gain access to the site and become a popular member on the site.

Their main purpose?

First and foremost, to gather intelligence, regarding extremism and extremists and keep a close tab on various nationalist and right wing organizations across USA and also Europe.

How would they do this?

Very easy. There are no real rules how to become a member on Stormfront.  You simply post in the “opposing section” which is heavily moderated, but  sympathetic posts to white nationalism will be allowed to go through as well as some ridiculous posts made by the “anti-whites” , or lets just call them people who write quite dumb things out of a gut reaction.

I’ll write about  later on FBI involvement and undercover agents on Stormfront.org, for now I’m gonna focus on members and membership on Stormfront.org

Those “guests”,  who are allowed and post something that is more of an outrage or even hatred,  the real  purpose of allowing  to redicule  everybody, who disagree with the site or the ideology behind Stormfront and Don Blacks’ creation of the white nationalist forum. I’m not sure, but it is a possibility, if some of these posts are actually made by -signed out- full members, posing as guests, perhaps with the help of a proxy server to hide their identity and whether they are or aren’t , we wouldn’t know for sure, not even by the members or the moderators would know it either, unless the moderators and the administration is involved as well.

The sympathetic ones stay on, regardless of who wrote it, it could be a Chinese or Japanese or even a black person. The forum members who respond to those, treat them as like some sort of a “ambassador” from another “tribe” or “race” and either will serve them as a reinforcement of their beliefs, but even them could fall victim of vicious racists who will try to pull some sarcastic racist jokes on them anyway, eventually they will be chased off the site by the real haters, for whom you can tell whatever you want, they will either respond with a noose or a satirical cartoon to ridicule them, completely destroying the credibility of what most of them would voice about “we just want separation between races”.

So, going back to how to become a member, how to reach the status of someone who is regarded as a “patriot” of white nationalism and gain support of others:

As long as you continue to post sympathetic thoughts to white nationalism, you will be soon granted a membership on the site and eventually your posts won’t be filtered by moderators anymore.  Once you reach that status, you are granted to post within all the forums and it’s time to collect your green dots.

The green dots, representing your status on the site; your reputation.   Many look upon the ones, who got many green dots comming from “repping” or “giving him a reputation, based on what he or she has posted and others agreed on his posts. It must be easy to collect those, as long as you blame the Jews or the Negroes one way or another, you lead or side track any discussions that will end up with a Jewish involvement or the “savage Negroes”.

The most active section of the site is the news site and it’s the busiest as well, visited by guests the most often and,  you’d find some pretty interesting linked articles coming from various sources, that you most likely won’t see being discussed on CNN or FoxNews.  Of course if you ever read it..you must take everything there with that spoon of antisemitism and racism added, usually by the commenting members replying below, and if you are really just surfing the web for info and you come across the site, you are better off reading the article and forget about the comments and disregard the rest of it, because 99% of the time it’s pure garbage, although you might find some intriguing thoughts, but few and far between and they must admit to the “cause” one way or another to knit in antisemitic/racist ideology or a sarcastic comment, otherwise the member might find himself being ridiculed or – my guess – suspended for being a suspcious “race traitor” or perhaps an “undercover Jew” and those are probably the biggest offenses you could commit on the site.

I’m not even sure if everybody is really a “WN” (White Nationalists) there,  I’m pretty good at analyzing people by what they write and i get the feeling, that many members – especially newcomers in the past few years- aren’t really  “white nationalists” but disgruntled everyday people, who feel being pushed over by either their employers or found themselves of being part of or being the witness of a crime, that might have been committed by a minority group.  I would say, they must submit themselves to the main ideology of what Stormfront was built upon, so whether they really mean it or not,  racism and antisemitism must be sewn into their posts and replies, otherwise pressure will be applied by other members and member can easily be pushed out and discredited without mercy.

….To be continued….

Why the wars are failures or will be failures anyway Tuesday, Nov 17 2009 

Why the wars are failures or will be failures

Some just refuse to understand this simple logical fact, or just damn evil to enforce it and make you believe that they are right and everybody else is wrong. Don't listen to them!

The biggest problem with the wars and interference is the incompatibility of “our” way with “their” way.

And there is more.

I’m sure of many thinks, that extremism, such as extremist religion and extremist state laws and human rights abuses plays a major role why would most Americans support the idea of “bringing democracy” to these countries.

The biggest problem is, that “our way” is not necessarily compatible and not just that, but “our way” might have become a lot worse, since our economy is the one crumbling, our human right laws are flawed and our jails are full of criminals. This is what they see from over there and of course they don’t want something similar, because they will just point the finger and say “Look, you tell us that it’s horrific to execute people and yet you do the same. You say, our protests were broken up by violent force of the police and yet you do the same (G20 protest). You tell us, that we are extreme, and yet you fill up the jails with people. You tell us that our religion is violent, and yet yours aren’t far, since you are the ones who bomb and imprison innocent people who got nothing to do with world affairs. ”

So what I’m trying to say is…maybe “our way” of life is just as flawed (if not as much) and it is quite hypocritical to try to force such ideology and system to others who got something else.

The Star of David has already became the symbol of oppression, just like the Swastika in Europe

Also about the cultural, ideological, traditional differences. The reason of the violence regarding Israel and the rest is, basically just that. Israel tries (tried) to maintain a system which is based on western ideas and western style living in the middle of a place, where everything else is sharply different. Jordan has a king, Syria is the same, Iran is an Islamic Republic. This is why the Jewish state fails..because it’s too small of a boat in the sea of an entirely different culture, which developed differently but highly compatible to region itself and Israel sticks out as a sore thumb. And this is even a bigger issue, than whether or not Jewish religion differences versus Islam, since many Islamic countries still have quite large Jewish diaspora, even iran has over 60,000 Jews living there since Babylonian times. So it’s not really the question of religion or belief (Both Islam and Jewish are Abrahamic religions anyway so we aren’t talking about sharp differences like Christianity and Buddhism for example) .
The problem is, that after WWII, the Jews who left Europe and formed a state, they brought the European style ideology and used force to gain enough power and land and tried to exist. Unfortunately those Jews who started this, are really not compatible to the region, since they are more Euro

Not all Jews are Zionists

Zionism is Nationalism, but not all Jews are Zionists

pean than Middle-Eastern, save the original population who lived there already.

So anyway, that’s just an example, of how different traditions and governmental-political-ideological systems can be completely incompatible and forcefully trying to change a state or a country will incite bloodshed and hate, no matter what.

Jews in Iran. Jewish religion is NOT alien in the Middle-East

The Middle-East is a hard nutshell to crack..and while we can keep sending thousands upon thousands of troops, it will make a little or no difference. The Afghanistan war or the Iraq war are like a milk drop into a coffee. You try to change the coffee color to milky-coffee but 2-3 drops will just disappear in the whole cup without making any differences. That’s why even if Iraq has a puppet president who support western ideas and even if the Afghan war would be won and a new Honest (not Karzai) president would be sitting there, It might not last long, due to the incredible force of thousands of years of traditions and cultural values and they might just sweep it out within years and everything goes back to what it was or something close to it.

-Well, don’t take that the wrong way, I’m not trying to reference it anyway to skin color or ethnicity, i’m just trying to find a metaphorical example.

So how to change them?

Well, how about by an example of ourselves instead of wars?  How about showing our greatness of leading in technology and social + ideological reforms necessary and not run endlessly in the mouse wheel of stillness?

Peace

Ideas and ways of life that transforms the world and make others change their ways and ideologies towards the better. These are ideas worth spreading

If USA (or EU) want others to change, you aren’t supposed to be using force, because then that becomes the example itself. What we gotta do is to show an example of non-aggression and work on our own problems and work out or own problems and try to leap forward from this staleness and violent behavior.
I can almost guarantee you, that good example without violent interference will definitely make others to follow much quicker than forcing them to swallow a pill, that we wouldn’t even swallow either.

Police Clashes with Hungarian Civilians Again Saturday, Oct 24 2009 

Police Clash with Hungarian Civilians Again!

This time, they try to go find trouble with a peacefull commemoration of the 1956 Revolution in Debrecen, Hungary.

(in case, the youtube video gets deleted, it features about 100-150 people singing the Szekely Hymn, when the police shows up in  2 groups, marching towards the singing group and start asking for IDs. There are some pushing around goes on and they try to arrest someone for nothing. The public is outraged and demand the Police to stop their activity, they have done nothing at all.  Eventually the police leaves and the people celebrate it as a victory over the oppresive regime, that has been set afoot in Hungary, ever since the MSZP (Hungarian Socialist Party) has been elected (by fraud) .

Informacio 2001 Szeptember 11-ikerol Saturday, Oct 24 2009 

Masolok.

In an interview with Christopher Deliso of Antiwar.com, former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds
says that the US government—the State Department in
particular—consistently blocks counterterrorism investigations that
come too close to certain top-level people. “We go for the Attas and
Hamdis—but never touch the guys on the top.… [It] would upset ‘certain
foreign relations.’ But it would also expose certain of our elected
officials, who have significant connections with high-level drugs- and
weapons- smuggling—and thus with the criminal underground, even with
the terrorists themselves.… [A]ll of these high-level criminal
operations involve working with foreign people, foreign countries, the
outside world—and to a certain extent these relations do depend on the
continuation of criminal activities.” Edmonds
says that the government’s investigation into the financing of al-Qaeda
is a case in point. “You know, they are coming down on these charities
as the finance of al-Qaeda.… [But] a very small percentage comes from
these charity foundations. The vast majority of their financing comes
from narcotics. Look, we had 4 to 6 percent of the narcotics coming
from the East, coming from Pakistan, coming from Afghanistan via the
Balkans to the United States. Today, three or four years after Sept.
11, that has reached over 15 percent. How is it getting here? Who are
getting the proceedings from those big narcotics?… But I can tell you
there are a lot of people involved, a lot of ranking officials, and a
lot of illegal activities that include multi-billion-dollar
drug-smuggling operations, black-market nuclear sales to terrorists and
unsavory regimes, you name it. And of course a lot of people from
abroad are involved.” She says that her allegations against co-worker
Melek Can Dickerson and her lawsuit against the FBI are just the tip of
the iceberg. She expresses frustration that the media wants to only
focus on the whistleblower aspect of her case instead of looking into
the substance of her allegations. She says that it was completely by
chance that she stumbled over an ongoing investigation into this
international criminal network. “You can start from the AIPAC angle.
You can start from the [Valerie] Plame case. You can start from my
case. They all end up going to the same place, and they revolve around
the same nucleus of people. There may be a lot of them, but it is one
group. And they are very dangerous for all of us.” [Anti-War (.com), 8/15/2005]

Entity Tags: Sibel Edmonds, US Department of State, Al-Qaeda

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

A Háborúk Ára Friday, Oct 23 2009 

http://costofwar.com/

Gyarapodnak a “Sátor városok” Amerikában Wednesday, Oct 21 2009 

Figyelem! Ez a hirek 5/6/2009, szoval meg majusbol valo. Ezerrel fogadok hogy egyetlen magyar ujsag sem irta.  Azota valtozott a helyzet. (meg tobb hontalan es megnagyobb “sator varosok” vannak, csak nehez elkapni a hirekben, mert “nem jo” ezekrol irni, nehogy panikba essen a tobbi okor borju.)

Igen, de nem azert, mert szeretnek kempingezni, es nem is azert, mert a  termeszet utan vagyodtak.

Tent City Occupant

Tent City Occupant

Jim Marshall visszaemlekezik mindenre ami szep volt azon az oszi napon.

A homerseklet kb. olyan 70 fok volt (21 Celsius) November 19-en,  az eg “teljesen kek” es a nevetes kihallatszott parkba a St. petersburgi barbol,  ahol a (39 eves) Marshall ult, es az elso napjat, mint otthontalan, “unnepelte”.

“Ahogy akkor gondolkodtam, mint egy fesztivalon lennek. Most meg azon gondolkodom, hogy hol fogok ma ejszaka aludni ? Hol fogok enni?  Hol fogok zuhanyozni?

A munkanelkuli (Marshall) azok a munkanelkuliek koze esett, akiknek a szama sulyosan megnovekedett (Ed: es tovabb novekedik), az ugynevezett “ekonomiai munkanelkuliek”, egy olyan kifejezes ami azokra vonatkozik, akik ujonnan lettek munkanelkuliek. Vagy elbocsajtas, vagy elveszitettek a hazukat, vagy mas penzugyi problemak altal a recesszio aldozataiva valtak.

Ezek nem ugyanazok a munkanelkuli otthontalanok, akik az utcat lakjak valamilyen mas szemelyes problemak miatt, mint peldaul a drogosok, vagy alkoholistak vagy mentalisan rokkantak.

Nem nem.. az “ekonomiai otthontalanoknak” az amerikai ideal, ami azt hirdteti, hogy tanult es kemeny munka altal, kenyelmes kozep-osztaly szintu eletszinvonal elerhetosege mar csak egy elerhetetlen remeny.  Motelokba, “sator varosokba”, parkolokba tomorulnek, alternativan ketsegbeesve es remennyel munkat probalnak keresni es imadkoznak, hogy megfordul talan a szerencsejuk.

“A szuleim mindig azt tanitottak, hogy kemenyen tanulj az iskolaban, vegezd el a kozepiskolat, menjel egyetemre, szerezz egy diplomat es minden rendben lesz.”  Jobb lesz, mint a szuleidnek, te vagy az “uj generacio” – Meseli Marshall. “Ezt en mindet megcsinaltam. …Egy ideig, jo eletem volt, de mostanara ez mar nem vonatkozik, nem ez a valosag. ”

A sator varosok es a hontalan ovohelyek  California-tol Massachusetts-ig jelentik, hogy novekedesben vannak. A National Alliance to End Homelessness (Nemzetkozi Osszefogas a Hontalansag Felszamolasaert) megjosolta, hogy tobb mint 1.5 millioval fog noni az otthontalanok szama.  Mar most “tobb szazezer” veszitette el az otthonat, mondja az egyesulet elnoke Nan Roman.

(tobbet nem forditok, azt hiszem ennyi eleg most)

In English:

PINELLAS COUNTY, Fla. — Jim Marshall recalls everything about that beautiful fall day.

The temperature was about 70 degrees on Nov. 19, the sky was “totally blue,” and the laughter from a martini bar drifted into the St. Petersburg park where Marshall, 39, sat contemplating his first day of homelessness.

I was thinking, ‘That was me at one point,’ ” he says of the revelers. “Now I’m thinking, ‘Where am I going to sleep tonight? Where do I eat? Where do I shower?’ ”

The unemployed Detroit autoworker moved to Florida last year hoping he’d have better luck finding a job. He didn’t, and he spent three months sleeping on sidewalks before landing in a tent city in Pinellas County, north of St. Petersburg, on Feb. 26.

Marshall is among a growing number of the economic homeless, a term for those newly displaced by layoffs, foreclosures or other financial troubles caused by the recession. They differ from the chronic homeless, the longtime street residents who often suffer from mental illness, drug abuse or alcoholism.

For the economic homeless, the American ideal that education and hard work lead to a comfortable middle-class life has slipped out of reach. They’re packing into motels, parking lots and tent cities, alternately distressed and hopeful, searching for work and praying their fortunes will change.

“My parents always taught me to work hard in school, graduate high school, go to college, get a degree and you’ll do fine. You’ll do better than your parents’ generation,” Marshall says. “I did all those things. … For a while, I did have that good life, but nowadays that’s not the reality.”

Tent cities and shelters from California to Massachusetts report growing demand from the newly homeless. The National Alliance to End Homelessness predicted in January that the recession would force 1.5 million more people into homelessness over the next two years. Already, “tens of thousands” have lost their homes, Alliance President Nan Roman says.

The $1.5 billion in new federal stimulus funds for homelessness prevention will help people pay rent, utility bills, moving costs or security deposits, she says, but it won’t be enough.

“We’re hearing from shelter providers that the shelters are overflowing, filled to capacity,” says Ellen Bassuk, president of the National Center on Family Homelessness. “The number of families on the streets has dramatically increased.”

‘A change in the population’

Pinellas Hope, the tent city run by Catholic Charities here since December 2007, has been largely for the chronically homeless, some of whom suffer from mental illness or struggle with drugs or alcohol.

About 20% of its 240 residents became homeless recently because of the economic downturn, says Frank Murphy, president of Catholic Charities, Diocese of St. Petersburg.

“We’re seeing a change in the population. … We’re seeing a lot more that are just plain losing their jobs and their homes,” says Sheila Lopez, chief operating officer of the charity. “A lot are either job-ready or working but have lost their home because they were laid off, or their apartment, and now can’t go to work because they’re not shaven, they’re not clean, they’re living in a car, or they’re living on the street.”

The charity plans to expand the tent city and build an encampment in a neighboring county, an idea that has drawn objections from nearby homeowners and businesses.

Communities elsewhere are facing similar pressures:

• In Massachusetts, a record number of homeless families need emergency shelter, says Robyn Frost, executive director of the Massachusetts Coalition for the Homeless. In mid-April, there were 2,763 families in shelters, including 655 in motels because the shelters were full, an increase of 36% since July, she says.

“We have a high number of foreclosure properties, and many of them are multifamily apartments,” Frost says. “We were seeing a great number of families being displaced.”

• Reno officials shut down a tent city in October after making more shelter space available, but new encampments are popping up along the Truckee River and elsewhere, says Kelly Marschall of the Reno Area Alliance for the Homeless.

The homeless include “a startling number of first-time homeless,” she says. “We asked them what industries they were involved in. The majority were talking about construction, the housing industry, real estate. There was a direct correlation to the housing market crash.”

• In Santa Barbara, Calif., 84 men and women sleep in their cars, trucks or recreational vehicles in 17 parking lots around the city, says Jason Johnson with the New Beginnings Counseling Center, which runs the RV Safe Parking Program. The city, which allows the use of three municipal lots at night, supports the program, says city parking superintendent Victor Garza. Last May, there were 58 participants and no waiting list. Now 40 people are waiting.

“People’s last refuge has become their vehicle,” Johnson says.

Objections by residents

Pinellas Hope in Florida looks like a cookie-cutter subdivision, except that the orderly rows are of tents, not houses. Besides 250 tents, all of similar size, shape and color, there are 15 wooden sheds, 6 feet by 8 feet, that Catholic Charities built as shelters.

The charity plans to reduce the number of tents to 150 and erect 100 sheds, which are more durable, and build as many as 80 permanent studio apartments on the property, Murphy says.

His group also wants to open a campground for 240 homeless people in neighboring Hillsborough County, he says, primarily using wooden sheds.

Unlike Pinellas Hope, which doesn’t border residential neighborhoods, the Hillsborough County parcel is across the street from a tidy 325-home subdivision called East Lake Park. There, opponents of the tent city have a website: http://www.stoptentcity.com.

Hal and Cindy Hart are raising three grandchildren in their home on the lake. The kids, 4 to 13, fish for bass, ride their bikes to friends’ houses and attend neighborhood parties.

The Harts fear that large numbers of homeless people, some with addictions and criminal backgrounds, would loiter in the neighborhood. “We will not be able to let our grandchildren ride their bikes outside without constant supervision,” says Hal Hart, 52, a paralegal.

The Harts agree that the homeless population needs services, but they think the emphasis should be on programs that will help families, not single adults.

Murphy says the diocese wants to address the neighbors’ concerns and has lowered the number of proposed occupants from 500.

‘A temporary situation’

Pinellas Hope, which has a waiting list of about 150 people, is attracting a growing stream of homeless men, women and couples. Families with children are sent to area shelters.

New arrivals must agree to rules, such as not using drugs or alcohol, and perform chores, Lopez says. They get mats, sleeping bags, toiletries, flip-flops for showers and lockable boxes in their tents to store valuables. Within one week, they must make a plan describing how they will work their way out of homelessness.

Residents are expected to move on within five months, but some stay longer. Campers have access to trailers with bathrooms, showers, computers, washers and dryers and a room of donated clothes. They get a free bus pass the first month and advice on writing résumés.

By day, some leave camp to look for work or ride the bus to pass the time. Others stay, watching TV in large communal tents, doing laundry or playing Monopoly. At night, an off-duty police officer patrols the camp, which is governed by curfews: 10:30 p.m. on weeknights and midnight Fridays and Saturdays.

The camp bustles at dinnertime, when everyone gathers for a hot meal provided by churches and other organizations.

A year ago, there were 5,500 homeless people in Pinellas County, says St. Petersburg police officer Richard Linkiewicz, a homeless-outreach officer. This year, there are 7,500, including 1,300 children in homeless families, he says.

Many of the newly homeless worked in construction, a booming industry in Florida before the economic bust, he says.

David Grondin, 48, moved in on Feb. 7 and stayed for two months. A union carpenter, he graduated from the University of South Florida in 1999 with a bachelor’s degree in fine arts.

He struggled as carpentry work and odd jobs disappeared. When his 1992 Saturn died in August, he could no longer get to jobs far from public transportation routes.

Frustrated by his inability to find a job in Florida, last month Grondin took a bus to Portland, Maine, where he’s staying with friends and looking for carpentry work. “I was definitely middle class,” he says. “I had a car. I got a paycheck every week.”

Kevin Shutt, 53, moved into Pinellas Hope in March after he was laid off from his job waiting tables because diners “stopped coming through the doors,” he says.

Shutt has decorated his tent with house plants, including a ficus tree his mother gave him nearly 30 years ago, and pinned Tampa Bay Rays and Buccaneers jerseys to the inside walls.

He tearfully recounts how he got kicked out of his apartment by a roommate when he couldn’t come up with the rent. A former homeowner who made Caesar salads tableside at restaurants, now he can’t get a job at Taco Bell, he says. “This is the first time in my life I ever dreamed about living in a tent,” he says.

An optimist by nature, Shutt vows that his stay will be short. He has filled out more than 175 job applications and occasionally works for a friend doing canvas work on boats. “This is a temporary situation,” he says.

A diminished outlook

Marshall, the former autoworker, has an associate’s degree in electronic engineering and is less encouraged.

He remembers a comfortable life in Michigan, where he worked in automotive testing, owned a brick ranch-style home, made up to $50,000 a year and played in softball leagues.

Companies he worked for started losing contracts a few years ago, and eventually the work dried up, he says. He sold his house and moved into an apartment, but by 2007 he couldn’t pay the rent.

He came to Florida in August, thinking the job market was better. But he couldn’t pay the rent here, either.

At Pinellas Hope, Marshall searches online job sites or takes the bus to apply for work at McDonald’s, factories and Wal-Mart. He gets $45 a week selling his blood plasma.

“I have my résumé online. I go door to door. I make phone calls,” he says. “I have not received one phone call, one e-mail. I thought with my experience and my degree, it wouldn’t be this difficult.”

Marshall feels ill at ease in the camp and has trouble sleeping, and not just because of the armadillos that burrow under his tent. “I’m scared,” he says. “If I can’t find a job, where do I go next?”

At this point, he has lowered his expectations. “I don’t expect ever to make $50,000 a year working in the auto industry, but just enough to survive, have my own place, buy my own food, my own clothes,” he says. “What every American would expect.”

Innen:

MADJAR-MAGYAR TALÁLKOZÓ Monday, Mar 17 2008 

Turul

Másfél évezrede leszakadt magyarok találkozója

2007. június 22. péntek 22:40


Genetikai vizsgálatok igazolták, hogy a végtelen kazakisztáni síkságon szétszórtan élő madjar törzsek a Kárpát-medencében élő magyarok hátramaradt csoportjainak kései leszármazottai.
Július elején Kazakisztánban, a Szári-özön /Sárga-folyó/ partján tartják kétszáz éve nem volt találkozójukat azoknak a madjar törzseknek a vezetői, amelyek a végtelen kazakh síkságon egymástól sokszáz kilométer távolságban élnek. A találkozóra azt követően kerül sor, hogy tavaly Dr. Biró András genetikus vezetésével egy madjar-magyar expedíció kereste fel e törzseket. Az expedíció során született kapcsolatokat a törzsek tovább ápolták, és januárban határoztak a nagy törzsi ülés összehívásáról.

A madjar törzs tagjai vélhetően az Árpád Nagyfejedelem vezette honfoglalást évszázadokkal megelőzően, mintegy másfél ezer éve szakadtak el őseinktől. Nyelvükben asszimilálódtak környezetükhöz, de identitásuk markánsan őrzi eredetüket, hiszen minden madjar sírkövére, másfél ezer év múltán, cirill betűkkel ma is rávésik a megkülönböztető MADIAR szót.

Sajtószolgálatunk értesülése szerint rendkívüli eredménnyel járt azoknak a genetikai mintáknak a tudományos összehasonlító elemzése, amelyeket a tavalyi kazakisztáni expedíció során Dr. Bíró András Zsolt gyűjtött. A kazakisztáni madjar törzs tagjaitól begyűjtött DNS mintákat 39 populáció /népcsoport, nép/ genetikai mintájával hasonlították össze (az apai ágon öröklődő Y-kromoszóma jellegzetességeit vizsgálva). A vizsgálat során kiderült, hogy az összehasonlító vizsgálatba bevont 39 népesség közül a kazakisztáni madjarokhoz legközelebb a magyarországi magyar minta áll (ezt követően hasonlít a kazak, oszét, üzbég és ujgur mintákhoz)! Az eredmény még a valamilyen hasonlóságot váró kutatókat is meglepte, hiszen legalább ezerötszáz éves különélés és több ezer kilométer választja el a két népességet.

Ez a felismerés pedig magyar ember számára nem lehet közömbös.

A tavalyi expedíció létrejöttét a Magyarok Világszövetsége is jelentősen támogatta, és arról részletes, fényképes beszámolót publikált a HONLEVÉL újság.

A mostani, történelmi jelentőségű madjar találkozót reprezentatív küldöttséggel szeretné köszönteni a magyar nemzet egységének megteremtésén és felemelkedésén fáradozó Magyarok Világszövetsége, amely e célból, ezennel 2.000.000 Ft összegyűjtésére gyűjtést indít. A támogatók nevét sajtószolgálatunk közzéteszi. A gyűjtést a kitűzött célösszeg eléréséig folytatjuk.

A támogatásokat kérjük az alábbi bankszámlára átutalni, és sajtószolgálatunkhoz erről értesítést küldeni.

A Magyarok Világszövetsége kiemelten közhasznú szervezet, amely a támogatóknak adóigazolást ad. A támogató adóalapját a befizetett összeg 150%-val csökkentheti.

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Magyar- Madjar Kurultaj – Óriási lépésekkel előre – Lehet, hogy kicsi lesz a puszta?

2008.02.01. 13:58

Öles léptekkel haladnak a II. Magyar- Madjar Kurultaj előkészületei. Az elmúlt hetekben megalakultak a szervezőcsoportok és területi összekötő szervek. Az országos és a körzeti médiákban folyamatos lesz a tájékoztatás az előkészületekről és a programokról. Azt már szinte bizonyos, hogy az évtized egyik legjelentősebb tudományos, kulturális eredményének hangot adó Kurultaj a legnagyobb rendezvény is lesz egyben. A végén még kicsi lesz a puszta…

Magyar- Madjar Kurultaj – Óriási lépésekkel előre

Öles léptekkel haladnak a II. Magyar- Madjar Kurultaj előkészületei. Az elmúlt hetekben megalakultak a szervezőcsoportok és területi összekötő szervek. Az országos és a körzeti médiákban folyamatos lesz a tájékoztatás az előkészületekről és a programokról. Azt már szinte bizonyos, hogy az évtized egyik legjelentősebb tudományos, kulturális eredményének hangot adó Kurultaj a legnagyobb rendezvény is lesz egyben. A végén még kicsi lesz a puszta…

A januári jelentkezések alapján már most legalább 32 szervezet vesz részt a Kurultaj megvalósításában. Valószínű, hogy a helyszínen az előzetesen tervezett 50 jurtánál, ezer gyalogosnál és 150 lovasnál jóval nagyobb közreműködői létszám jön össze. Nyugodtan kijelenthetjük, hogy a tudományos eredmények hatására megmozdult az ország. Magyarország újra éledezik. A barantások, lovasíjászok, harcművészek, tudósok, a magyarság képviselői, a hagyományőrzők mellett iskolák, művészek, színészek, előadók, filmesek fogtak szövetkeztek egy összefogottabb magyarság megteremtéséért. A szervezőknek azzal is számolni kell, hogy lassan nemcsak a résztvevők, de a nézők, érdeklődők száma is jelentősen nagyobb lesz a tervezetnél.

A Kurultaj egyik fő látványossága az a történelmi élőkép lesz, amelyben mintegy 1000 fő gyalogos harcos, 150 lovas, 200 dobos, 300 táncos vesz majd részt. Ezzel tisztelgünk majd testvéreink előtt.

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Malév Flight 240 Monday, Mar 17 2008 

Malév Flight 240

Malev 240

A Malév 240-es bejrúti járatának 30 évvel ezelőtti szerencsétlenségéről szinte az egész magyar média megemlékezett. A cikkek elsősorban a katasztrófa okozóira próbálták terelni a figyelmet, és politikai vérmérséklettől függően ki nem mondottan, elsősorban Izrael államot sejtetik mögötte.

Az egyik áldozat, egy stewardess, férje, pedig a magyar államot, mintha a hivatalos szervek előre tudták volna, mi fog bekövetkezni 10 kilométerre a bejrúti repülőtértől a Földközi tenger felett. Ugyanis ott zuhant a tengerbe 50 utassal és 10 tagú személyzettel a Malév 240-es járata 1975. szeptember 30-án kora hajnalban. Nekem más feltevéseim vannak az esettel kapcsolatban, de előbb lássuk a történelmi körülményeket.

1973 őszén (október 06 – 22/24) volt az úgynevezett „Yom Kippur”-háború, amikor Egyiptom és Szíria a zsidók legszentebb ünnepén megtámadta az előző (1967) háborúban győztes és arab területeket elfoglalt Izraelt. A meglepetésszerű támadást az izraeliek végül is visszaverték, átkeltek a Szuezi-csatornán és Kairótól 120 kilométerrel álltak meg az ENSZ békefelhívására, és az USA közbenjárásával. A szíriai fronton, pedig 32 kilométerre közelítették meg Damaszkuszt. A háború következménye volt az első olajválság. 1973. október 16-án az addigi hordónkénti 3 dolláros olajár hirtelen 5 dollárra emelkedett, azaz máról holnapra 70 %-os áremelkedés következett be, mely a következő évben (1974) elérte a hordónkénti 12 dollárt. (1 hordó = 159 liter). Az OPEC ekkor határozta el, hogy az arab országokkal szolidárisan, amíg Izrael vissza nem adja az elfoglalt területeket és a „palesztin nép jogait”, addig a kitermelést mérséklik, és azon országoknak nem szállít, amelyek a Yom Kippur háborúban Izrael pártján álltak. Így olajszállítási bojkott alá vették az Egyesült Államokat és Hollandiát.

1975 áprilisában tört ki a libanoni polgárháború, ahol arab keresztények és muszlimok csaptak össze. A helyzetet súlyosbította a Jordániából kiűzött (Fekete Szeptember, 1970 szeptember -1971 július) Arafat szimpatizáns palesztinok, akik menekült táborokban éltek, és akik Szíriából kaptak fegyveres katonai támogatást. A falangisták vezetője elleni sikertelen merénylet végrehajtóit palesztinoknak vélték és ezzel kezdetét vette egy kaotikus két éves polgárháború, melyben politikai, etnikai és vallási csoportok és érdekek harcoltak egymás ellen. A PLO (PFSZ) is megosztott volt, kemény harcok folytak az Arafat vezette mérsékelt Fatah-szárny, akik lemondtak a további terrorról, és az Abu Nidal irányította továbbra is erőszakos, terrorista cselekmények hívei között.

1975 őszén annyira veszélyessé vált a helyzet Libanonban, és ezen belül Bejrútban, hogy a nemzetközi légitársaságok leállították járataikat. A bejrúti repülőtér személyzete nem tudta biztosítani a gépek biztonságos leszállását, szervizelését, karbantartását, feltöltését. Az egyetlen járat, légitársaság, amely akkoriban közlekedett, egyedül a Malév volt, melynek gépei visszafelé valahol a Földközi-tenger vidékén (pl. Ciprus) tankoltak. Állítólag a keményvaluta hajtotta a magyar állami vezetőket ennek a járatnak a fenntartására. No, meg a politikai helyzet, a jó kifizetődő fegyverszállítások, melyben a Videoton és a FÉG is kivette részét, miközben egyre több „szabadságharcos” kiképzését vállalta Magyarország. A szovjet tábor ekkor kezdte „felfedezni” és elismerni igazán Arafat mozgalmát. A PFSZ első irodáját még a nyáron, 1975. augusztus 19-én nyitotta meg Prágában, szeptember 29-én, pedig Budapesten.

Augusztus 20-án, egy nappal a prágai PFSZ iroda megnyitása után, a csehszlovák légitársaság, a CSA, Iljusin IL62 típusú utasszállítógépe 17 kilométerre Damaszkusz előtt, fedélzetén 126 emberrel lezuhant. Köztük volt Vujicsics Tihamér zeneszerző. Negyven nappal később, a budapesti PFSZ iroda megnyitása után – ugyancsak – egy nappal a Malév vadonatúj (egy éves) Tupoljev TU154A gépe Bejrút-tól 10 kilométerre zuhant a tengerbe.

Felvetődik a kérdés: nem lehet valamiféle összefüggés a kettő között? Elképzelhető, hogy a mindkét ünnepségre érkező, ill. az irodamegnyitásról távozó magas rangú (palesztin) vezetőket akarták eltenni láb alól. Hogy ez kinek az érdekében állt? Nem tudni. A potenciális elkövetők sora igen hosszú (lehet). Lehetnek az izraeliek, lehetnek a PFSZ vezetéséért versengő riválisok, lehetnek libanoniak, szíriaiak stb. Sőt, az is lehet, hogy nem lelőtték a Malév 240-as járatát, hanem a gépen bomba robbant. De, talán még véletlen baleset is történhetett, mondjuk felrobbant egy lőszerszállítmány. Bármi lehet.

Egy dolog azonban feltűnt ebben az egész történetben. A magyar közvélemény, média kizárólag a repülőgép katasztrófájának közvetlen kiváltó okára, a szerencsétlenség okozóira koncentrál. A meg nem nevezett “elkövető”-ben keresi a titok nyitját. Arra senki sem gondol, hogy esetleg más lehet a hallgatás, az elhallgatás, eltusolás mögött? Mégpedig egyszerű „anyagi” érdek: azaz a gép biztosítása. A Malév utasszállítógépeit ugyanis akkoriban – szabálytalanul és törvényellenesen – katonai célokra, azaz fegyverszállításra használták, és a repülőgép személyzetét, pilótáit tartalékos állománynak tekintették. Bencsics László kutatásai szerint néhány nappal a 240-es járat szerencsétlensége előtt a Malév pilótáit katonai kitüntetésekkel és előléptetésekkel jutalmazták, amit a pilóták nem teljesen értettek, hogy miért.

Ha egy (civil) utasszállítógépet szerencsétlenség ér, akkor a biztosító fizet. Ha viszont kiderül, hogy a gépet valójában katonai célra használtak (fegyver- és lőszerszállításra), akkor arra már nem érvényes a biztosítás! Tehát, a magyar hatóságoknak érdekük volt az ügyet nem bolygatni, a keresést, a szerencsétlenség okának és körülményeinek pontos kivizsgálását nem forszírozni, erőltetni, a kiemelést nem szorgalmazni. Ha feltevésem helytálló, akkor már érthető, hogy miért ez a titkolódás 30 év után is. Sokkal nagyobb „presztízsveszteséget” jelentett volna a magyar államnak (és a szovjet blokknak) – a világ előtt – ha kiderül, hogy utasszállítógépeket használnak fegyverszállításra, azaz katonai cselekményeket, gépeket álcáznak, mint egy szerencsétlenül járt polgári (Malév) gép elvesztése 60 emberrel a fedélzeten, köztük 11 magyar állampolgárral.

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The Lost MALEV Flight of 1975 Monday, Mar 17 2008 

Flight 240, was a Tupolev Tu-154 tri-motor jetliner of Malév Hungarian Airlines, which was flying on the Budapest to Beirut regular route when it was shot down near the Lebanese shoreline on 30 September 1975. There was a crew of ten Hungarians and fifty passengers on board, some of them from Scandinavia with only a single Hungarian traveler, there were also Palestinians, Lebanese, French, an Egyptian, a Saudi and a Dutchman traveling. There were no survivors as the wrecks fell into open waters on a dark night.
Malev Flight 240

During this period most airlines refused to fly the Beirut route due the chaotic Middle East situation. The airport in Beirut had received artillery fire a week before the event. Although Malév had also suspended the route temporarily in early 1975, it was soon reopened to help the Arab countries and especially the Palestinians to maintain contact, in line with the Soviet Bloc’s pro-Arab policies. Independent businessmen were also keen to take advantage of this sole link, even though Malév had a poor reputation at the time. The plane was filled to less than half of its seating capacity.

The Hungarian communist government did not pursue an investigation of the events, choosing instead to collect an unusually large sum of insurance money paid for the plane and the victims (some victims never saw that money though), based on an air accident claim.

The submerged wreck and black box data recorders were never searched, because of unstable political situation in Lebanon and the unsolvable technical difficulties posed by recovery from 600-meter depths, at least according to the official explanation. (In early 80s an Italian plane was salvaged and black boxes retrieved although the depth was some three thousand meters.)

It has been known from day one that the plane was destroyed by an explosion, since it disappeared without a distress signal mere seconds after negotiating a landing permit with the Beirut Airport and several independent witnesses saw the fireball. The cause of explosion has been determined as an external event (a missile hit as opposed to a bomb on board) based on analysis of floating pieces of wreckage. After that, the case laid dormant until the early 2000s when the coming 25th and 30th anniversaries renewed public interest in the case.

In a 2004 documentary film shown on Hungarian TV, a Hungarian woman talked about the former crew of RAF Olympus long range radar station in Akrotiri, Cyprus testified that they saw the Tu-154 being shot down by an AA missile fired by another aircraft, whose radar signature was characteristic of the F-4 Phantom II. Only the Israeli Air Force operated such craft in the area and that specific area fell also under their control.

Some radar and military experts do not believe that this sort of exact determination would have been possible with the 1960’s vintage radar in question.

Several motives have been proposed for the shot-down, including:

* The large cargo space of the Tu-154 was allegedly filled with a four metric ton small arms (AK47) and ammunition shipment intended for the Palestinian armed struggle and the flight was shot down to deny these weapons to the militias, although such flights were resumed and continued for years, as did also LOT, the Polish Airline.
* A delegation of ten medium-high ranking Palestinian representatives had just opened a PLO office in Budapest and were en route to Beirut and about to board Flight 240, but they were late and missed the plane by mere minutes. The flight’s departure had been rescheduled three times. Therefore the downing of Flight 240 was a possible large-scale assassination attempt, which did not get canceled for lack of up-to-date information.

Relatives and descendants of the victims are currently trying to organize a privately funded underwater mission to film the wreckage. The Hungarian government is notably silent on the issue, although it has used the pages of largest Hungarian newspaper Népszabadság to mildly inform relatives that research can only be undertaken if any interest in trying to discover the cause of such events is renounced beforehand.

Israeli investment is a very significant source of capital in post-communist Hungary’s new market economy, which could be hurt badly by a war crimes themed feud.

It is worth noting that there was a strikingly similar case: OK-DBF, the Ilyushin Il-62 plane of Czech Airlines’ Flight 542 crashed off Damascus on 20 August 1975.

Unfortunately the Wikipedia-crew has deleted this article.

Hungary’s Panic-Stricken Dictatorship Clashed With Protestors Monday, Mar 17 2008 

Tensions were already running high as the 160th anniversary of the 1848 revolution on the 15th March approached. The police had already cordoned off Kossuth Square and more than 2000 riot police were deployed around the parliament days before the anniversary.

Mathaba — A few hundred protesters turned up at Kossuth Square, in the centre of Budapest, where the official commemorations were about to start with the ceremonial raising the Republic’s flag attended by President Solyom and Hungary’s PM Gyurcsany, on Saturday morning 9am.

The demonstrators were outside the previously cordoned off area and shouting “Gyurcsany, f.ck off!” Heavy police presence can be seen at the Square.

By 10.15 a.m. 1,500 to 2,000 anti-government demonstrators were marching towards the official government celebrations at the National Museum. The crowd was led by Reverend Jnr. Hegedus after a memorial had been held at Szabadsag (Freedom) Square. The crowd was shouting anti-government slogans. Israeli-connected IN-KAL, the security for the official government celebrations confirmed that they would “remove anyone who is protesting against PM Gyurcsany”.

At 11.15 a.m. there are only a handful of people at the official government commemoration at the National Museum. Observers noticed that there were no flags – no official government speeches and certainly no speech from PM Gyurcsany.

Five minutes later the 2,000 strong anti-government crowd had reached their next stop at Fovamhaz Square. There was no confrontation at that time, with the few dozen people at the official celebration nor with the few thousand police guarding them.

Fifteen minutes later, at 11.35 a.m. local Hungarian time, 2 bigger units of the Hungarian Guard left Fovamhaz Square and were marching through Vaci street in formation, with enthusiastic citizens shouting “Go on, Guard!”. The Hungarian Guard joined Reverend Jnr. Hegedus’ memorial at Szabadsag Square in the morning and assisted to remove the red paint from the sculpture of Hungarian novelist and legend Albert Wass that had been vandalised some week earlier.

20 minutes later at 11.55 a.m. Reverend Hegedus asked the crowd at Fovamhaz Square: “Where has Petofi’s revolution faded? Where are the ideas that once represented the 1848 revolution?” “The liar government and their allies befoul the very steps where Petofi recited the 12 points” he added. Hegedus urged national organisations and parties to cooperate together. He also had a message to Simon Peres, the Israeli President, who months ago announced that “Israel is buying up Hungary”: “Petofi would say: “Occupy your wh_re mother, not our country!”.

An hour later at 12.55 p.m, more than 1,500 anti-government demonstrators arrived at 15 March Square, where the Liberal SZDSZ party member Demszky, Budapest’s Mayor tried to make a speech. He was guarded by hundreds of police and IN-KAL security guards fearing that last year’s incidents would be repeated when demonstrators threw eggs at the Mayor. Police cordoned off the area so demonstrators were outside the “throwing zone”. Nevertheless, they do their best by throwing eggs, tomatoes etc, shouting “To prison!” and “Treason!”.

Reuters reported clashes between demonstrators and the police, saying they responded to the egg throwing with tear gas rounds. A police spokesman said that 21 people were arrested in minor clashes throughout the day and that three police had been lightly injured. — Mathaba

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