Analyzing Stormfront.org (Part I. Membership and Federal Agency Involvement) Saturday, Dec 12 2009 

While many would not believe me saying what the title says, after closely following various discussions on the so called white nationalist site, the poor bastards don’t even know that they their site might have been hijacked by the federal agents during sometime this year, possibly during Summer.  When the first proposals of various registrations came out, regarding  “right wing extremism” and now as the “hate crime laws” are signed by pres. Obama, the site was already under the control of various infiltrators coming from think-tanks,  FBI and other undercover agents.  In this part of this blog, I’m gonna tell you my own observation regarding Stormfront and Its members and how to gain access to the site and become a popular member on the site.

Their main purpose?

First and foremost, to gather intelligence, regarding extremism and extremists and keep a close tab on various nationalist and right wing organizations across USA and also Europe.

How would they do this?

Very easy. There are no real rules how to become a member on Stormfront.  You simply post in the “opposing section” which is heavily moderated, but  sympathetic posts to white nationalism will be allowed to go through as well as some ridiculous posts made by the “anti-whites” , or lets just call them people who write quite dumb things out of a gut reaction.

I’ll write about  later on FBI involvement and undercover agents on Stormfront.org, for now I’m gonna focus on members and membership on Stormfront.org

Those “guests”,  who are allowed and post something that is more of an outrage or even hatred,  the real  purpose of allowing  to redicule  everybody, who disagree with the site or the ideology behind Stormfront and Don Blacks’ creation of the white nationalist forum. I’m not sure, but it is a possibility, if some of these posts are actually made by -signed out- full members, posing as guests, perhaps with the help of a proxy server to hide their identity and whether they are or aren’t , we wouldn’t know for sure, not even by the members or the moderators would know it either, unless the moderators and the administration is involved as well.

The sympathetic ones stay on, regardless of who wrote it, it could be a Chinese or Japanese or even a black person. The forum members who respond to those, treat them as like some sort of a “ambassador” from another “tribe” or “race” and either will serve them as a reinforcement of their beliefs, but even them could fall victim of vicious racists who will try to pull some sarcastic racist jokes on them anyway, eventually they will be chased off the site by the real haters, for whom you can tell whatever you want, they will either respond with a noose or a satirical cartoon to ridicule them, completely destroying the credibility of what most of them would voice about “we just want separation between races”.

So, going back to how to become a member, how to reach the status of someone who is regarded as a “patriot” of white nationalism and gain support of others:

As long as you continue to post sympathetic thoughts to white nationalism, you will be soon granted a membership on the site and eventually your posts won’t be filtered by moderators anymore.  Once you reach that status, you are granted to post within all the forums and it’s time to collect your green dots.

The green dots, representing your status on the site; your reputation.   Many look upon the ones, who got many green dots comming from “repping” or “giving him a reputation, based on what he or she has posted and others agreed on his posts. It must be easy to collect those, as long as you blame the Jews or the Negroes one way or another, you lead or side track any discussions that will end up with a Jewish involvement or the “savage Negroes”.

The most active section of the site is the news site and it’s the busiest as well, visited by guests the most often and,  you’d find some pretty interesting linked articles coming from various sources, that you most likely won’t see being discussed on CNN or FoxNews.  Of course if you ever read it..you must take everything there with that spoon of antisemitism and racism added, usually by the commenting members replying below, and if you are really just surfing the web for info and you come across the site, you are better off reading the article and forget about the comments and disregard the rest of it, because 99% of the time it’s pure garbage, although you might find some intriguing thoughts, but few and far between and they must admit to the “cause” one way or another to knit in antisemitic/racist ideology or a sarcastic comment, otherwise the member might find himself being ridiculed or – my guess – suspended for being a suspcious “race traitor” or perhaps an “undercover Jew” and those are probably the biggest offenses you could commit on the site.

I’m not even sure if everybody is really a “WN” (White Nationalists) there,  I’m pretty good at analyzing people by what they write and i get the feeling, that many members – especially newcomers in the past few years- aren’t really  “white nationalists” but disgruntled everyday people, who feel being pushed over by either their employers or found themselves of being part of or being the witness of a crime, that might have been committed by a minority group.  I would say, they must submit themselves to the main ideology of what Stormfront was built upon, so whether they really mean it or not,  racism and antisemitism must be sewn into their posts and replies, otherwise pressure will be applied by other members and member can easily be pushed out and discredited without mercy.

….To be continued….

Why the wars are failures or will be failures anyway Tuesday, Nov 17 2009 

Why the wars are failures or will be failures

Some just refuse to understand this simple logical fact, or just damn evil to enforce it and make you believe that they are right and everybody else is wrong. Don't listen to them!

The biggest problem with the wars and interference is the incompatibility of “our” way with “their” way.

And there is more.

I’m sure of many thinks, that extremism, such as extremist religion and extremist state laws and human rights abuses plays a major role why would most Americans support the idea of “bringing democracy” to these countries.

The biggest problem is, that “our way” is not necessarily compatible and not just that, but “our way” might have become a lot worse, since our economy is the one crumbling, our human right laws are flawed and our jails are full of criminals. This is what they see from over there and of course they don’t want something similar, because they will just point the finger and say “Look, you tell us that it’s horrific to execute people and yet you do the same. You say, our protests were broken up by violent force of the police and yet you do the same (G20 protest). You tell us, that we are extreme, and yet you fill up the jails with people. You tell us that our religion is violent, and yet yours aren’t far, since you are the ones who bomb and imprison innocent people who got nothing to do with world affairs. ”

So what I’m trying to say is…maybe “our way” of life is just as flawed (if not as much) and it is quite hypocritical to try to force such ideology and system to others who got something else.

The Star of David has already became the symbol of oppression, just like the Swastika in Europe

Also about the cultural, ideological, traditional differences. The reason of the violence regarding Israel and the rest is, basically just that. Israel tries (tried) to maintain a system which is based on western ideas and western style living in the middle of a place, where everything else is sharply different. Jordan has a king, Syria is the same, Iran is an Islamic Republic. This is why the Jewish state fails..because it’s too small of a boat in the sea of an entirely different culture, which developed differently but highly compatible to region itself and Israel sticks out as a sore thumb. And this is even a bigger issue, than whether or not Jewish religion differences versus Islam, since many Islamic countries still have quite large Jewish diaspora, even iran has over 60,000 Jews living there since Babylonian times. So it’s not really the question of religion or belief (Both Islam and Jewish are Abrahamic religions anyway so we aren’t talking about sharp differences like Christianity and Buddhism for example) .
The problem is, that after WWII, the Jews who left Europe and formed a state, they brought the European style ideology and used force to gain enough power and land and tried to exist. Unfortunately those Jews who started this, are really not compatible to the region, since they are more Euro

Not all Jews are Zionists

Zionism is Nationalism, but not all Jews are Zionists

pean than Middle-Eastern, save the original population who lived there already.

So anyway, that’s just an example, of how different traditions and governmental-political-ideological systems can be completely incompatible and forcefully trying to change a state or a country will incite bloodshed and hate, no matter what.

Jews in Iran. Jewish religion is NOT alien in the Middle-East

The Middle-East is a hard nutshell to crack..and while we can keep sending thousands upon thousands of troops, it will make a little or no difference. The Afghanistan war or the Iraq war are like a milk drop into a coffee. You try to change the coffee color to milky-coffee but 2-3 drops will just disappear in the whole cup without making any differences. That’s why even if Iraq has a puppet president who support western ideas and even if the Afghan war would be won and a new Honest (not Karzai) president would be sitting there, It might not last long, due to the incredible force of thousands of years of traditions and cultural values and they might just sweep it out within years and everything goes back to what it was or something close to it.

-Well, don’t take that the wrong way, I’m not trying to reference it anyway to skin color or ethnicity, i’m just trying to find a metaphorical example.

So how to change them?

Well, how about by an example of ourselves instead of wars?  How about showing our greatness of leading in technology and social + ideological reforms necessary and not run endlessly in the mouse wheel of stillness?

Peace

Ideas and ways of life that transforms the world and make others change their ways and ideologies towards the better. These are ideas worth spreading

If USA (or EU) want others to change, you aren’t supposed to be using force, because then that becomes the example itself. What we gotta do is to show an example of non-aggression and work on our own problems and work out or own problems and try to leap forward from this staleness and violent behavior.
I can almost guarantee you, that good example without violent interference will definitely make others to follow much quicker than forcing them to swallow a pill, that we wouldn’t even swallow either.

The Lost MALEV Flight of 1975 Monday, Mar 17 2008 

Flight 240, was a Tupolev Tu-154 tri-motor jetliner of Malév Hungarian Airlines, which was flying on the Budapest to Beirut regular route when it was shot down near the Lebanese shoreline on 30 September 1975. There was a crew of ten Hungarians and fifty passengers on board, some of them from Scandinavia with only a single Hungarian traveler, there were also Palestinians, Lebanese, French, an Egyptian, a Saudi and a Dutchman traveling. There were no survivors as the wrecks fell into open waters on a dark night.
Malev Flight 240

During this period most airlines refused to fly the Beirut route due the chaotic Middle East situation. The airport in Beirut had received artillery fire a week before the event. Although Malév had also suspended the route temporarily in early 1975, it was soon reopened to help the Arab countries and especially the Palestinians to maintain contact, in line with the Soviet Bloc’s pro-Arab policies. Independent businessmen were also keen to take advantage of this sole link, even though Malév had a poor reputation at the time. The plane was filled to less than half of its seating capacity.

The Hungarian communist government did not pursue an investigation of the events, choosing instead to collect an unusually large sum of insurance money paid for the plane and the victims (some victims never saw that money though), based on an air accident claim.

The submerged wreck and black box data recorders were never searched, because of unstable political situation in Lebanon and the unsolvable technical difficulties posed by recovery from 600-meter depths, at least according to the official explanation. (In early 80s an Italian plane was salvaged and black boxes retrieved although the depth was some three thousand meters.)

It has been known from day one that the plane was destroyed by an explosion, since it disappeared without a distress signal mere seconds after negotiating a landing permit with the Beirut Airport and several independent witnesses saw the fireball. The cause of explosion has been determined as an external event (a missile hit as opposed to a bomb on board) based on analysis of floating pieces of wreckage. After that, the case laid dormant until the early 2000s when the coming 25th and 30th anniversaries renewed public interest in the case.

In a 2004 documentary film shown on Hungarian TV, a Hungarian woman talked about the former crew of RAF Olympus long range radar station in Akrotiri, Cyprus testified that they saw the Tu-154 being shot down by an AA missile fired by another aircraft, whose radar signature was characteristic of the F-4 Phantom II. Only the Israeli Air Force operated such craft in the area and that specific area fell also under their control.

Some radar and military experts do not believe that this sort of exact determination would have been possible with the 1960’s vintage radar in question.

Several motives have been proposed for the shot-down, including:

* The large cargo space of the Tu-154 was allegedly filled with a four metric ton small arms (AK47) and ammunition shipment intended for the Palestinian armed struggle and the flight was shot down to deny these weapons to the militias, although such flights were resumed and continued for years, as did also LOT, the Polish Airline.
* A delegation of ten medium-high ranking Palestinian representatives had just opened a PLO office in Budapest and were en route to Beirut and about to board Flight 240, but they were late and missed the plane by mere minutes. The flight’s departure had been rescheduled three times. Therefore the downing of Flight 240 was a possible large-scale assassination attempt, which did not get canceled for lack of up-to-date information.

Relatives and descendants of the victims are currently trying to organize a privately funded underwater mission to film the wreckage. The Hungarian government is notably silent on the issue, although it has used the pages of largest Hungarian newspaper Népszabadság to mildly inform relatives that research can only be undertaken if any interest in trying to discover the cause of such events is renounced beforehand.

Israeli investment is a very significant source of capital in post-communist Hungary’s new market economy, which could be hurt badly by a war crimes themed feud.

It is worth noting that there was a strikingly similar case: OK-DBF, the Ilyushin Il-62 plane of Czech Airlines’ Flight 542 crashed off Damascus on 20 August 1975.

Unfortunately the Wikipedia-crew has deleted this article.